The latest update in the J425 Lake Stevens development series reveals exactly WHAT is going WHERE in the massive set of retail and commercial properties at the border of Lake Stevens and Marysville
Really great to have this laid out so clearly. I’d love to know how the traffic from all this development is going to reverberate outward--south and west of most interest, but surely north and east too. Highway 9 is still full of logjams that will only get worse with increased density.
hey Tom. the doubling of lanes and subtraction of lights in the Frontier Village portion of SR-9 should help traffic move more smoothly to and from the trestle. search: roundabouts if you haven’t seen our coverage on that. I know our local leaders are attempting to move towards more self sustained communities without the requirement to cross the trestle to earn or spend a paycheck. and yes our major employers grow as the cities do. But not enough: our major employer is still the SD followed by retailers and the city. so we aren’t there yet and won’t be soon. still, after living in the silicon valley for five years i don’t even see recognizable traffic (at least in the sense that’s familiar to me) unless i’m trying to use the trestle before 830 am on a weekday — ….and of course the approach to and through Seattle is arguably the worst choke point on
the west coast - but locally though, if i need to hit home depot in snohomish i plan for 12 minutes it usually takes 12 minutes. that’s not to say anything is ideal. i generally think that the massive improvements occurring at the 204/9 intersection are occurring parallel to or even slightly before the improvements became imperative. on the other hand i was working for the former senate transpo chair when those improvements were planned: 2011. meaning if traffic is only a moderate problem now then we are still ten years behind bc the improvements come slowly. i also think that the exodus from cities hasn’t peaked and places like sno, LS even Granite Falls & Arlington are probably headed for more growth — with Lake Stevens likely to continue holding on to its title of fastest growing city in the state. We’ve topped 50k this year.
It’s 50k give or a take a few hundred. i have my own dataset i put together from 4 or 5 sources. I’ve reported it out a couple times. In short tho if you are just looking for the right answer it’s between 49700 and 51250.
Until the developers are held to account for and pay for adjustments to traffic, this will only go from bad to intolerable. For example, imagine Trestle Traffic equivalent locally during school start and school pickup
i think the frontier village improvements are going to help. there’s no way that the addition of extra lanes in each direction and the elimination of lights won’t help. but as you say that has nothing to do with developers — it was planned over a decade ago. On the other hand, the development of places like Soper Hill is really nothing more than the infill of a plan that our benevolent leaders made long ago: they chose what’s going where. hopefully they planned planned correctly. we’re about to find out: Lake Stevens continues to be the fastest growing city in the state. Thanks for reading and commenting. - kev
Really great to have this laid out so clearly. I’d love to know how the traffic from all this development is going to reverberate outward--south and west of most interest, but surely north and east too. Highway 9 is still full of logjams that will only get worse with increased density.
hey Tom. the doubling of lanes and subtraction of lights in the Frontier Village portion of SR-9 should help traffic move more smoothly to and from the trestle. search: roundabouts if you haven’t seen our coverage on that. I know our local leaders are attempting to move towards more self sustained communities without the requirement to cross the trestle to earn or spend a paycheck. and yes our major employers grow as the cities do. But not enough: our major employer is still the SD followed by retailers and the city. so we aren’t there yet and won’t be soon. still, after living in the silicon valley for five years i don’t even see recognizable traffic (at least in the sense that’s familiar to me) unless i’m trying to use the trestle before 830 am on a weekday — ….and of course the approach to and through Seattle is arguably the worst choke point on
the west coast - but locally though, if i need to hit home depot in snohomish i plan for 12 minutes it usually takes 12 minutes. that’s not to say anything is ideal. i generally think that the massive improvements occurring at the 204/9 intersection are occurring parallel to or even slightly before the improvements became imperative. on the other hand i was working for the former senate transpo chair when those improvements were planned: 2011. meaning if traffic is only a moderate problem now then we are still ten years behind bc the improvements come slowly. i also think that the exodus from cities hasn’t peaked and places like sno, LS even Granite Falls & Arlington are probably headed for more growth — with Lake Stevens likely to continue holding on to its title of fastest growing city in the state. We’ve topped 50k this year.
So as you say. Should be interesting.
I just saw that the city hit 40,700. Where did you get the 50k number?
where did you get 40?
It’s 50k give or a take a few hundred. i have my own dataset i put together from 4 or 5 sources. I’ve reported it out a couple times. In short tho if you are just looking for the right answer it’s between 49700 and 51250.
Until the developers are held to account for and pay for adjustments to traffic, this will only go from bad to intolerable. For example, imagine Trestle Traffic equivalent locally during school start and school pickup
i think the frontier village improvements are going to help. there’s no way that the addition of extra lanes in each direction and the elimination of lights won’t help. but as you say that has nothing to do with developers — it was planned over a decade ago. On the other hand, the development of places like Soper Hill is really nothing more than the infill of a plan that our benevolent leaders made long ago: they chose what’s going where. hopefully they planned planned correctly. we’re about to find out: Lake Stevens continues to be the fastest growing city in the state. Thanks for reading and commenting. - kev